Lone Pine: Two Feminists’ Take On Spiritual Experiences

Two Feminists’ Take On Spiritual ExperiencesI’ve been in a different place with my writing than every other writer/author I’ve encountered until a couple of weeks ago.

Then, I made a decision. Kind of an odd decision. As I was skipping around the internet, I stumbled onto some info about a writer’s group in Seattle called Greater Seattle Women Who Write and I decided I wanted to join. I’d checked out a couple of writer’s groups closer to where I live, but while attending a workshop for one, a woman who knows my ex showed up. Another is run by a woman who’s also employed by the guy who provides most of my freelance work. Small town problems.

I clicked through and a window opened for profile information, which, in this case, was required in order to be considered for membership. I answered a couple of questions, then came to the last one, which asked, “Who are your favorite authors and why?

I’ve read so many books I wasn’t sure where to start, then, from out of nowhere, Barbara Ehrenreich’s name popped into my mind. It had been a while since I’d read any of her books, so I made another decision that probably only super geeks would think of doing. I went to check out her website to see if I could find anything that would help me answer the question at least somewhat intelligently.

When the site came up, I was struck by an image, words, that caused a rush of feelings. Frustration. Disappointment. Envy.

Barbara Ehrenreich literally just published a memoir, Living with a Wild God, which is based on a mystical event she experienced in her teens.

I thought, “I’ve been working so hard, doing what I’ve been told, spending hours on social media, trying to figure out how to talk about my experiences, trying to get people interested in what’s been happening to me, but not having any idea how to do it without sounding crazy and, boom, she has credentials in a completely different area and she gets this book published.”

I’ve been struggling to find ways to tell people, now have story that is relevant to feminism & spiritual journey.Of course, I had to order it, to find out what her book was really about. I plowed through it, hardly able to stop, wanting to know.

As I read it I could see that there were significant differences in the way we processed our experiences and the effect they’ve had on our lives, but we have strikingly similar personalities and our experiences have quite a few common features.

Not surprisingly, both of us struggled for years with the idea of talking about what we’ve experienced. For Ehrenreich, she didn’t, for half a lifetime. When I talked about my first experience, I left out the part that was difficult to explain. When the second one happened, I had no idea what to do. I was writing at the time and knew no one could generate a book on two bewildering events. But various types of experiences kept occurring and I kept writing, trying to understand, processing the information like Ehrenreich did in her journal.

Like Ehrenreich, I also have original copies of my stories. I did the same thing she did. Not knowing what to do with them, I wrote them down, then left them. I have files dated from 2003 that include the first two of three pivotal events that create the foundation of my memoir and some responses from people I shared it with at that time.

Slowly my writing style began to change, bringing forth a voice I never dreamed could come from me.

Ehrenreich explains that she’d spent years trying to figure out whether or not God could exist. She explains why she tried to rationalize everything away at the time. It’s understandable given that her family was atheist, that she and her father had a passion for science, and the fact that she was a teenager at the time.

I came from the opposite direction, having been raised Christian, I struggled with feelings that I never fit, but I kept coming back to it. Then, shortly after I decided I had to walk away from religion as I knew it, I experienced an event that reached deep into aspects of my character to traits that distinctly defined me. Four years later I experienced another event that affected me even more profoundly. After I made a major life change, remarkable events seemed to just keep coming, not on quite the same level, but then another astonishing one occurred in 2012.

About a year and a half ago, I realized that a large portion of my writing actually fit together as pieces of a memoir, a spiritual journey, and I started to weave them together. Given what I was experiencing, it made me wonder who I was and that became an important part of my story because I’m the complete opposite of the image people have of someone who is or should be blessed by God.

I’m incredibly independent. I’ve made difficult choices to maintain my integrity as a feminist—I’ve done what I believed was right for me and dealt with the consequences. I now have accomplishments few people can claim, including maintaining a business for over 25 years and supporting my daughter’s dreams, one of whom is now at MIT, because being the best mother I could be has been my top priority.

Feminist’s Spiritual Journey. Details have mattered–past and present. I am being directed to pay attention.As I learned to make difficult choices to do what I felt was right in different areas of my life, I found myself doing the same for my writing, investing an immense amount of time trying to understand what’s been happening and trying to figure out what to do with all of it. The events/gifts/awareness I’m receiving/experiencing — including some critical pieces of scientific information that arrived without any attempt to seek it out—led me to radical conclusions about God. How those conclusions impact feminists and progressives, actually everyone, needs to be heard.

But Ms. Ehrenreich understands, like I do, that these journeys are long. We both describe periods of time when we felt terribly alone.

To make sure I understood what she experienced, I went back to re-read a few chapters and noticed a deep connection in a couple of the words, which, in some ways, didn’t surprise me given everything I’m experiencing.

In the chapter called “The Trees Step Out of the Forest,” Ehrenreich describes her first unusual experience, which occurred when she was looking at pine trees, as dissociation.¹ A chapter that follows is titled “All, All Alone.” In the next chapter, when she experienced the event that is the focal part of her book, she was in a town called Lone Pine.²

Pine. Lone Pine. Maybe I responded to those words because of my experiences and maybe part of it is because I have a passion for double entendres. Pine doesn’t have just one definition. It also means yearning, longing. Maybe it’s a bit of a stretch for some, but, to me, the juxtaposition of those two words is spine-tingling. Even more so, the fact that two pivotal events revolved around that same word with the focal event occurring in a place with a name that could so clearly and deeply speak to her story, and, for me, to know that feeling.

The more I thought about Ehrenreich’s story, the more excited I became. I realized that it was a pretty incredible set of circumstances that directed me to find out about her book in the exact month it was published. But it’s also exciting to see that a renowned feminist, who has a Ph.D in science, is giving this topic relevance.

It’s giving me hope that there will be interest in my manuscript, especially because I know there will be people who will continue to try to rationalize away what Ehrenreich has to say, and what I have to share not only supports her tentative conclusion, it takes it a step further.

My search has simultaneously been focused on trying to understand current challenges faced by women. To my surprise, it led to an intersection of spirituality, feminist perspectives, and science that can’t be denied. Given the current war on women and the impact some beliefs are having on the state of our democracy, I believe the ideas I’ve developed are needed to help shift thinking about who God is and how ideas about God are affecting women. I never expected to be in this place. I know Barbara Ehrenreich didn’t either.

For anyone who cares to know the answer to the question on the profile, I listed Barbara Ehrenreich first and wrote, “…because she’s willing to take on difficult subjects.”

Presented to The Center for Spiritual Living on May 11, 2014.

It’s been terribly difficult to try to figure out how to tell people about my book because it’s based on a series of events and I haven’t wanted to share those stories before finding a publisher, but that doesn’t really even convey the scope of my book, because I share the evolution of my spiritual journey and concepts I developed along the way. (I explain more at ceejae-devine.com/books.)

As you can see, there can be some long periods of time between these experiences, so when I started blogging I just talked about other subjects, practicing my writing and sharing ideas. About a year ago, I decided to share a short story about my older daughter called We Often Didn’t Think in Terms of Success, We Simply Tried, but then about six months ago, a kind of cool series of events occurred, so I posted, “Star Gazing & Other Matters of Immense Gravity,” even though I knew most of that story could be dismissed as luck or chance. Another minor series occurred that spanned from Christmas to April, but it was about my youngest daughter and her boyfriend, so I felt like I needed to wait a while to see how best to handle that one, but I presented the story at The Center for Spiritual Living in April, 2014.

So, it’s incredibly exciting to finally have a story I can share that demonstrates the kind of direction I’ve been receiving. It’s still really hard to get my mind wrapped around the fact that this revolves around subject matter that is so relevant to my book: being directed to another feminist who’s trying to understand personal experiences that compelled her to reconsider her views about God.

Two weeks ago when I shared just that much with the minister at The Center for Spiritual Living, she offered me another opportunity to speak to the congregation. Then, when I re-read the sections about Ehrenreich’s experiences and discovered the deep connection in the words “pine” and “lone pine,” I thought, “Oh, my God, there’s more and it’s mind-blowing. People will finally be able to see some of the things I’m experiencing. This is what I needed.”*

Maybe because the pivotal events in my memoir occurred when I was out doing things, I kept wondering if that was the only way that level of event could happen. I haven’t been able to do much of anything for a long time because my kid’s needs have been so financially demanding, so I kept thinking, “Will anything significant happen again? How will anyone believe me if I can’t show them? Practically all I’m doing is reading and walking.” But this and “Star Gazing” have shown me they can continue to happen, anywhere. I’m apparently doing what I need to be doing and, even though things feel a little frustrating at times, I know I’m in the right place.

*The observation that the term “pine” was related to her first experience and the focal event of the book, the discovery of the double entendre, and the meaning attributed to it are elements that I noted and developed. None of this is part of Ehrenreich’s analysis of her experience.

Note: There are a couple of striking similarities about our experiences that haven’t been covered in this post and I will address those as soon as my book is published.


1) Ehrenreich, Barbara. Living with a Wild God: A Nonbeliever’s Search for the Truth about Everything. New York, NY: Twelve, 2014. Print. p. 47.

2) Ibid., p 115-116.

Also, please check out the other posts about my spiritual journey and experiences.

I believe what I have to share in my memoir will help shift how people see God and that shift will have an impact on unnecessary harm that’s being inflicted on many people around the world. I understand there many people who now follow spiritual concepts that revolve around how we think— and they involve ideas that we don’t need to think, we just need to be; that we can think our way to becoming rich; and that all anyone needs is love—and I will be sharing my thoughts about all of that soon.


Experiencing Fear, Having Two Spot on Special Friends Appear

Star Gazing & Other Matters of Immense Gravity

We often didn’t think in terms of success, we simply tried.

Spiritual Journey

Feminism and Spirituality? What am I thinking?

A Feminist’s Spiritual Journey—An Unexpected, Important Story

Spirituality — the most difficult subject ever?*


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10 Responses to Lone Pine: Two Feminists’ Take On Spiritual Experiences

    • Renae,

      This turned out to be pretty long, so I really appreciate your taking the time to read it. It’s been an incredible journey and I want to stop people on the street and say, “This is happening!” But I also want to do it right. I’ll be sending out more agent queries for my memoir in the next few weeks, so, wish me luck!

  1. I always love it when I notice these synchronicities in my life. I know they are telling me, “hey, you’re on the right track,” but I often wonder if they are always present and sometimes I’m simply too wrapped up in trying to control my world that I just don’t see them.

    Maybe that’s why things are so difficult during those times. It’s not so much that I’m on the wrong track, but I’m not listening to what the universe its trying to tell me. I think it’s important to remember not to try so hard, not to resist. In pushing too hard to make our lives the way we think they ought to be, we make things so much harder on ourselves.

    Like one of Kerouac’s writing rules, he says we must remain “submissive to everything, open, listening.” When I go with the flow, I start to notice these little encouraging clues and hints. I enjoy the ride instead of worrying about success or failure.

    I feel our jobs as writers are to filter, translate, and enlighten the collective consciousness, to show the state of our minds in this perplexing existence, to reveal the beauty in our struggles, to help the human race evolve. So it’s plain to me that you are in sync with your destiny. Don’t ever give up! You’re helping us evolve.

    PS Congratulations on raising such accomplished daughters.

    • Christa,

      For me, Barbara Ehrenreich’s experience confirmed that she and I have had events occur that are going beyond serendipity but, at this point, I feel it’s important to hold off sharing what those aspects involve until I figure out how my memoir is going to get published.

      I have a number of thoughts on your questions and those will have to wait as well, because they are addressed in my book. I hate being in this place. I want to have it published now, but one thing I have learned from this journey is that I have to be patient. I have some ideas as to why, so I hold on to those and continue to be thankful, because this is so much fun!

      I love that you mention Kerouac. I have a story in the wings that involves what I know about his life and what I wished for in mine. I probably need to go get one of his books!

      Your comments are immensely appreciated. It’s so nice to have connected with someone who is willing to listen and who has such a deep understanding of the importance of these journeys.

  2. There are many things you’ve said that really relate to. I’ve never doubted the existence of God, but didn’t form any conclusions until my late teens and have struggled immensely with the organized, social side of it (for various reasons). Religion has become the social aspect of my faith which I try not to discount or completely avoid, but I don’t allow it to rule me. I don’t buy into the jargon. If I am truly a part of the “church,” (for others it may be some other word) then my experiences, both as a believer and as just a human being (who happens to be a woman) will color my spiritual experience too. And that’s okay. I’m not preaching heresy, but there are so many aspects of (religion) that become trends or cultural norms that have little to nothing to do with real faith or even the texts that I believe are God inspired. I wasn’t brought up in any belief system, but had my own experiences (and continue to have them) that confirmed God’s existence and presence in my life and others’ lives to me.

    I’d never heard of Ehrenreich, but I’m certainly interested and will look her up. I’m interested to read your memoir too! 🙂

    • Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I especially appreciate that you understand that there is an element of who we are as individuals, as women, in how we perceive everything. I never expected my personal experiences to have anything to do with spirituality, so it’s been an incredible mental shift for me. I think what’s most important is being open-minded, not taking anyone’s word for anything, but to watch, listen, read and form your own opinions, which is what I’ve been doing. The thing is, I’m finding myself awestruck by this journey, and that’s what I want to share, how it started, where I am now and how shifts in thinking could benefit our democracy. Wish I could say I have my book ready to go, but hope you’ll check back once in a while to see how things are progressing!

  3. I agree about being open minded. Not to say I think faith or spirituality is subjective–I do believe there is truth–but faith is certainly a journey and people, being different, have different experiences. If they’re truly seeking God, they will find him. And I follow you on Facebook too, so I’ll definitely stay in touch and check on your progress! 🙂

  4. I love your blog. Sorry it took me this long to read, I’ve been dealing with life and death issues with my daughter, it’s been pure faith and knowing that prayers are answered if you say them right – that got us through. We had several miracles in the last 2 weeks. I’ve struggled with this feeling of being utterly alone many times in my life. Most recently (within the last couple of years, I questioned everything I ever believed, and came back stronger than before). In my youth my only question was if God loves us so much why all the pain and suffering? It dropped me to my knees. I now understand.

    • Joyalea,

      So sorry to hear about what you’ve been going through. I’ve been SO lucky—both of my daughters have been very healthy all their lives. It sounds like things are turning around for your daughter, so I’ll send a few prayers that things continue to improve. I know pain and suffering push us in ways that nothing else can. I was in a terribly painful situation, but had grown to accept it. Then a couple of gifts pushed me in ways that are hard to explain without telling the entire story, but the second one gave me just enough faith to trust that I could step into the vast unknown. Once I said, “Yes, I’ll trust,” the gates of opportunity opened and, while life continues to be challenging, there’s been so much joy, on so many levels. I’m so glad we’ve connected and I’m looking forward to a lasting friendship.

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